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cornell22
09-04-2007, 09:54 AM
ok guys back in 2002 i had a 2000 f-4 i was young and stupid doing crazy speeds and thigs i shouldent have done and ended up in a accident on the bike. i am now wanting a new bike but the wife says she will be to nervous. what are some things i can tell her to calm her nerves so i can get a new bike. everytime i see one my heart skips a beat. Iwant one so badi have kids now and she says she dont want to be a single mother but i am now much more resposible and just want to ride to work and on some weekends with my dad and my father in law.

cbrizzle
09-04-2007, 11:01 AM
I get the same from my family and girlfriend. But it was my money so I just went out and bought one. They all still tell me to sell it and I do try to sell it very slowly though. I put it on craigslist for a price a little bit higher than I paid it. I dont recommend you to buy one without your wife's permission though. You also have a kid too. I was thinking once I get married I will sell the bike. I wouldnt want to have a child and wife and not be there for them if something happens to me, it wouldnt be fair for them. Other than buying one, I dont think it will be easy to convince a woman that has no interest in that stuff.

TheX
09-04-2007, 11:05 AM
ORIGINAL: cbrizzle

I get the same from my family and girlfriend. But it was my money so I just went out and bought one. They all still tell me to sell it and I do try to sell it very slowly though. I put it on craigslist for a price a little bit higher than I paid it. I dont recommend you to buy one without your wife's permission though. You also have a kid too. I was thinking once I get married I will sell the bike. I wouldnt want to have a child and wife and not be there for them if something happens to me, it wouldnt be fair for them. Other than buying one, I dont think it will be easy to convince a woman that has no interest in that stuff.



There is a lot of wisdom in that post!

Ruftags
09-04-2007, 11:06 AM
You should never have to ask your wife for permission! Just agree on the terms. Explain your older and wiser and understand your responsibilities to her and the kids. Also remind her you could be killed by a drunk driver while in a car just as easy. Don't waste your life with regret. Make sure you got enough life insurance to get college for kids and help the wife just in case. Just my .02 or at least what I did.

TheX
09-04-2007, 11:22 AM
ORIGINAL: Ruftags

You should never have to ask your wife for permission!


Wrong answer, marriage is more than dominating a woman macho style. A real man respects his wife.

ORIGINAL: Ruftags

remind her you could be killed by a drunk driver while in a car just as easy.


Wrong answer, check your statistics before boldly claiming something like this.

cornell22
09-04-2007, 11:31 AM
yes i would never buy without her permission. i want a bike so badly but i cant convince her that i will be more carefull on one this time around i was not very matture when i had my last one and i fell i can just ride for fun this time around i dont need to go 100 mph i am not interested in douing stunts or wheelies i just love to ride.

alekinci
09-04-2007, 11:32 AM
cornell, first rule that anyone will tell you about bikes. if you dont have a bike while going into marriage then you will never have one. that is, until you are separated in some manner and lets hope that’s not the case.
two, if you have kids now; forget it!!!!
stop being so selfish! your focus is on the family now and not you. it seems to me that you are still young and still doing crazy things. grow up and move on. sorry about busting your chops but thats reality. all the best.

cornell22
09-04-2007, 11:46 AM
well i guess you dont know me then i am not some young punk kid. I have my priorities straight my family is first. and i had a bike befor i was married. but i thought a 4 wheeler would be fun so now i have a yamaha raptor 700. so i can have my toys. but i just want to make the wife more comforatable with me having a bike. thanks for your replies with anything to help her be more comforatable

lifties
09-04-2007, 12:20 PM
Purchase a Life Insurance policy, buy your bike, and sleep well knowing that in the unfortunate and unlikely event that you are involved in a fatal accident, your wife will have ample money to forget about you.

There are things you can do to help pursuade your wife that riding a motorcycle isn't as dangerous as it seems:
Take the MSF course.
Take the Advanced MSF course.
Buy/Wear a full set of gear.
Don't show any interest in stunting.
Get good medical on your insurance policy.
Think about a crusier instead of a sport bike.
Join a group and limit your rides (at first) to group rides. (saftey in numbers)
Dont commute on your bike, recreational rides only.

Alekinci
"stop being so selfish! your focus is on the family now and not you." Getting a motorcycle does not mean he is throwing caution to the wind and forgoing his family. Millions of people ride motorcycles every year and are not involved in fatal accidents. Since the majority of accidents occur when alcohol has been consumed, then by the numbers, just avoiding drinking and driving will make riding safer.

nfamousdevil
09-04-2007, 12:32 PM
^+1... I can't imagine my girlfriend telling me that I can't do something that I love. Granted I'm not married and I don't have kids. I'm sort of torn, because I can see where she is coming from. But you only have one life to live man. You should live it. If riding makes you happy, she should understand.

Streetdemon
09-04-2007, 12:41 PM
Been married for about 4 years now (with kids)and bought first street bike 3 years ago. Wife didn't like it much but I bought a broke down bike and told her it was an investment. She was okay with it because (1) It didn't run when I brought it home and (2) Itkept me out of her hair for a few hours on weekends. Sold that bike, made some vacation money and 4 bikes in now.Enjoy them for a few months then sell them. She still doesn't like the idea of meriding but gear is key and only drive for recreation.

alekinci
09-04-2007, 01:01 PM
ORIGINAL: cornell22
well i guess you dont know me then i am not some young punk kid. I have my priorities.

you right, i dont know you nor does that matter.from what you wrote i can read a lot between the lines. follow your own word "my priorities straight my family is first." so do what is best for them and not yourself.. i still stand by what i said, and you know Im right. dont kid yourself!
also, just because you consider yourself to be responsible does not eliminate risk of any type. you might have have your wits while you ride but that does not mean that the rest of the public does the same.

ORIGINAL: lifties
millions of people ride motorcycles every year and are not involved in fatal accidents. Since the majority of accidents occur when alcohol has been consumed, then by the numbers, just avoiding drinking and driving will make riding safer.

ok, fine. fatal accidents might not be as high as we think but how about the people that lost the use of their arms, legs and ability to have a normal functional body?
the accidents that ive seen that involved bikes were not contributed to rider error. it was all road conditions. either traffic, crappy road, or stuff on road.

come on guys, you dont need to agree with me in order to feed my ego; but dont kid yourselves by thinking that what cornell wants to do is the right way.

final statement: there are many bikers that get run over by drunk drivers here, i hope thats not the case were you guys live.

Ruftags
09-04-2007, 02:03 PM
That was kinda misunderstood, Marrige means neither has to ask permission. My whole life growin up my Dad was like alot of my friends Dad's like they either had to sneak or beg to go somewhere or buy something. When my wife and I got married I made it clear niether was a parent to the other and therefore you shouldn't need permission. That was my point. And as far as being hit by a drunk driver DON'T argue statistics with mebecause I have been hit by a drunk while in a car and not while on my bike. I was only trying to relay support and maybe give a couple Idea's for his cause. Nothin Macho about honesty.

fishfryer527
09-04-2007, 03:07 PM
Agree with her and tell her that you don't want a sportbike because they are made for 'crazy kids andracing', tell her you just want to go 'cruising'. For some reason most people think standards and cruisers are safer. The idea is to get on two wheels right? You may have to get a Z1000 or a Sv1000 instead of a fully faired sportbike.

TheX
09-04-2007, 03:10 PM
True, a less intimidating looking bike might be a lot easier to get away with.

jmdaley
09-04-2007, 04:19 PM
Wrong answer, marriage is more than dominating a woman macho style. A real man respects his wife.

Thex finally said something i can agree with. And also the standard bike would probably be a good compromise. I had a Honda 919 for about a year and absolutely loved it. They're good looking bikes, handle well, more comfortable, and are faster than a F4i. The 599 is also a very sporty bike that's lots of fun and a good price. I belong to honda599.com and it's a great place if you want to go and get some info and ask some questions about either of these bikes. And make sure to get a good (read 'safe') jacket, helmet, and gloves...and wear them all the time. Hopefully that way your wife will know you're serious about staying safe, even if it's inconvenient.

Let us know what happens!

EDIT: I sold my bike when i got married...but bought another one after two years of marriage. My wife's 9 months pregnant and i commute to work every day on my bike. She knows how much i love her and how i don't do stupid things on the bike. I have fun, but don't do things that many riders do (like lanesplit, drive on the shoulder, weave around in traffic, etc). No, it's not the safest thing to do, but that's life and we'd all be miserable if we always did the 'safest' thing.

cbrizzle
09-04-2007, 10:44 PM
I have always had thoughts about horrible things happening to me. Sometimes I feel like I am comfortable with death if it happens to me in case of a fatal accident. ButI always feel differently when I am riding, I feel like it is not dangerous at all if you are very cautious and not stupid in your riding. But there are moments where I feel the urge that all men feel come out. The need for speed... Its sometimes hard to control that feeling. I know every rider out there sometimes feel like their inner mind wants to push that bike. Well what im basically saying is even though you say you have matured, you will have those cravings from your earlier bad habits.

white99gt
09-04-2007, 11:00 PM
Unless the the wreck was bad enough ,i dont think that you will have calmed down enough to control your urges(which is what your wife is seeing).

I suggest talking about it and not forcing the idea on her.I havent had a bike in over 14years(mainly because i was young and dumb.Totalled to interceptors back then pulling and doing stupid stuff),then i got married had kids etc etc..Last year got the craving for a bike but held off because of all the misunderstandings my wife and kids had about them.It was hard to talk my wife into a bike because she works for a orthopedic doctor and sees guys from bike wrecks all the time.

But i had to talk to other peaple we knew that owned bikes.They explained the good and bad sides of them..So she got easier on the idea.She is still not 100% happy but she is better.

To makeiteasier on her,i have taken the MSF (beginners and plan on taking the advance).I have more than enough insurance in "case" something happens to take care of my family, she knows i wont get the " need for speed" to much because thats what my car is for(its got more safety equipment in it than some race cars).Lastly i got all the proper gear to wear when i ride..Which is what 90% of the guys i know DONT do..

cornell22
09-05-2007, 11:54 AM
thanks for the great reply white99gt. i feel the same as you i have her somewhat at ease with it but shes not fully comforatable. i have had the msf class. you are absolutly right about the urges to try it out but i know if something happens this time i am never going to ride again. we have been talking about it for about a year an a half so its been a while. the crash i had was pretty bad but not life threatning tore up my body pretty bad. my wife also works in a hospital so she sees it all the time. her dad just got a new bike and she knows some people can ride for years without a problem if you are carefull and i plan on getting all the gear jacket helmet gloves and shoes prob just wear jeans. thanks alot for your reply