Is it just me or do guys in chipped out diesels always try to race bikes?? I'm not really complaining cuz I don't mind putting them in there place [sm=devilgrin.gif]

I have seen a few of those diesel trucks running in the 9's at the track.

i dont try to race bikes in my diesel.. mostly cause i know the acceleration of a bike is unmatched.. so by the time i shift into second the bike is already through the intersection..

ORIGINAL: cbr_racin123

I have seen a few of those diesel trucks running in the 9's at the track.




yea ur right, but not every diesel is doing that. I'm not hating on diesels or anything cuz i have a buddy that has a bad ass diesel, but it's like every time i pull up next to one they're always trying to act tough because they have a vehicle 20 times the size of mine

lol theres lots of things that run in the 9s at the track. doesnt make their daily driven counterparts any faster. ive notived that too. come on, big heavy diesels get walked all over by honda civics and v-6 mustangs. being fast for a truck, or fast for a diesel and being fast are 2 very different things. they need to get it through their heads, if you race a normal every day car, you'll lose, if you race a bike, you get shamed.

come to think of it, i get revved at a lot by 4 banger mini trucks all the time too, lol

this is great ! last night i was on my way home and had to stop for gas sice it was payday i treated the girl to a nice tank of 101 octane, now as i am siting there filling up som guy a ram diesel pulls up. i mind my own beacuse its a gas staion lots of people pull in. well this walks over to me and checks out my bike. says nice bike blah blah blah .... and he ask how fast have i gone on it ! i replied 160 he then ask me if i want to make a quick 50 bucks ! i said sure how ? hey free money is free money. he wants to race me i his truck. i was no way first i don't race anything that can run me over when i beat the crap out of it! he says check my truck out then think about it. so i check his truck out its nice .. bullydog electronics and soem big ass turbo and nos .. i was like hell no. i don' have 50 to spare if i lose he tells me ok 50 just to give him a run for his money and pulled a 50 out of his pocket an handed it to me. so i handed it back andasked where was this going to happen at.he knew of a spot that was a privateairstrip that we could run on .. so we exchanged numbers and sice the weather was rainy we deciced that sunday wewhere going to do this .. i willupdate when it happens

well...don't be running the 101 octane cause it ain't going to do nothing for you...maybe in fact slow yo arse down.

"a nice tank of 101 octane"


Just out of Curiosity? Why do you use 101 octane gas?

Yep, you're bike isn't technically a "race bike", your bike was made to run "Premium" fuel. They sell 110 octane here in town, but the ONLY people I ever see use it are the drag cars on the trailer behind the truck pulling it. And like Tahoe said, you'd lose power more than anything. Your bike will run wayyy too rich/lean, depending on your setup.

"Your bike will run wayyy too rich/lean, depending on your setup."


Not rich. It will make you run lean no matter how your bike is set up.

Now the question is: Is that 101 octane normal gas or Race fuel? there is a huge difference.

Well, it depends on how he has his bike setup, if he has a PC, an exhaust and so on. Yeah, big diff between race gas and pump gas, no doubt about that, the highest ive seen in ohio is 97<pump gas, and then that 110Cam2 race fuel...ahhh race fuel, going to track days or AMA/WERA races, that stuff is like fresh air, nothing like the sweet smell of race fuel!

Gotta love the smell ethanol and methanol add to the exhaust:D. We've got one gas station here that has VP Street Blaze 103 right at the pump woohoo!($7.00 a gallon but hey)

its pump gas not race gas, and the reason i run it is that the dealer told me if i can run better than premuim then run that.. now i alwasy run premium i found this 76 station that has 101 and i decided to try it at first just a gallon or 2 and i noticed my bike got better fuel milage, then when it warmed up i started to ride again more offten adn noticed my gas milage was way down, so i checked the plugs and filters and found nothing wrong just happened to need gas one day and stoped there deciced to try running a full tank 4.5 gallons . i go great milage afer that and still do i just run a tank full once a month. am i doing something to my bike i will stop! but the dealer told me i was fine. but if you guys know better please fill me in! this is my first new bike and DO NOT WANT TO FU@# IT UP! please tell me if i am doing the wrong thing! oh and i showed up at the airstrip on sunday and the guy had his freinds thereand just handed me the money and said he was sorry thought i was a 600 ! dam and i was all excited to run my bike so i did a couple passes just for me ..wow! is all i can say i have really never opened my bike up before ..but wow!

Running a higher octane can damage your engine because higher octane has a higher detonation rate. In other words more of the gas will ignite making it run lean since your engine wont expect that high of a stoich mixture and it will lean out. If you have your vehicle tuned for it it you will be fine, but honestly you are wasting your money, and potentially damaging your bike.

Uh, I hate to say you're wrong but....you're wrong. Higher octane gas does not increase "detonation rate" it does just the opposite; it makes detonation lesslikely to occur. This is why higher compression and/or turbo/supercharged cars need higher octane, so detonation does not occur. Higher octane gas is less likely to burn when compared to lower octane fuel. Nevertheless, anything over premium in today's bikes, stock, is a waste of money.

I'm sorry I mixed my words, I didnt mean detonation, I meant ignition rate. Meaning like I said, it will ignite more of the fuel causing you to run lean.

Higher octane will ignite more consistently preventing detonation like the poster previously mentioned and corrected me on my misuse of words.

In short, running 93 in a car tuned for 87 is a waste. Running 103 in a car tuned for 87 can be dangerous. Running 117 or spraying methanol in a car tuned for 87 IS dangerous.

you could buy VP U4 at the dealership. or go to ur local hobby shop and buy some 30% nitro fuel for nitro R/C cars... throw some of that in your bike, it makes a huge differences. now dont bash me saying im screwin up my bike cause i havent used it in my 07 1kRR. i used it in my 04 CRF50 lol. makes that thing haul ass!!!

it's now u4.1
it's oxygenated...should tune for it to maximize or it's a waste...but the smell of it and other race gas is well worth the waste...muhahahhah...
it's highly corrosive so don't leave in engine.
it's not very good for the motor. i would only recommend on race bikes where life of the motor isn't your goal.

NO RUNNING 101 OCTANG ISNT GOING TO HURT YOUR BIKE IF IT IS PUMP GAS

The compression in a RR is 12.2/1 and that is high for a street engine, 101 octane will not hurt the engine. Low octane (cheap fuels) will. I would not go over 101 unless you get some motor work , etc higher comp pistons, titanium valves hot cams, mapping, Just my $.02 worth.;)

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I'm sorry I mixed my words, I didnt mean detonation, I meant ignition rate. Meaning like I said, it will ignite more of the fuel causing you to run lean.

Higher octane will ignite more consistently preventing detonation like the poster previously mentioned and corrected me on my misuse of words.

In short, running 93 in a car tuned for 87 is a waste. Running 103 in a car tuned for 87 can be dangerous. Running 117 or spraying methanol in a car tuned for 87 IS dangerous.



higher octane does not make you "ignite more of the fuel" or whatever else jibba jabba you are talking about.

type in octane in google and go read about it for awhile. higher octane resists ignition. allowing higher compressions and hotter temperatures. a high octane fuel like 100 in a bike that is made for 87 or 91 will definitely make it run rich as less of the fuel will be ignited and it will make less power.

agreed if you think that higher octane will make your bike run leaner your http://techhelpers.net/e4u/drink/trink39.gif octane increases the detonation temp and pressure of gasoline. effectively ritchening it . Anything 12.0 to 1 or better wont have a problem with 101 as a mater of fact. If you did run 101 strictly you could advance your base timing and squeeze a few extra horses out of it. However, if you went back to 91 with the timing advanced it could cause problems such as early detonation screwing up your pistons and bearings..... just my two cents though.

Getting a little of topic about octane and trucks wanting to race. On the other hand a few days ago i was on a major highway near my town and this guy in an 03 or 04 mustang v6 no less got beside me and was passing me then slowing down doing it for a few times. Well the passenger started mocking me. So me strolling at 65 in fourth gear looked at him nodded so he kinda did a hand count and took off. I down shifted to third 100 popped 4th 130 mph then 5th 150mph not a mustang in sight. so I slowed down waited and just kinda waved. happens all the time on I-81. *I love it*

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its pump gas not race gas, and the reason i run it is that the dealer told me if i can run better than premuim then run that.. now i alwasy run premium i found this 76 station that has 101 and i decided to try it at first just a gallon or 2 and i noticed my bike got better fuel milage, then when it warmed up i started to ride again more offten adn noticed my gas milage was way down, so i checked the plugs and filters and found nothing wrong just happened to need gas one day and stoped there deciced to try running a full tank 4.5 gallons . i go great milage afer that and still do i just run a tank full once a month. am i doing something to my bike i will stop! but the dealer told me i was fine. but if you guys know better please fill me in! this is my first new bike and DO NOT WANT TO FU@# IT UP! please tell me if i am doing the wrong thing! oh and i showed up at the airstrip on sunday and the guy had his freinds thereand just handed me the money and said he was sorry thought i was a 600 ! dam and i was all excited to run my bike so i did a couple passes just for me ..wow! is all i can say i have really never opened my bike up before ..but wow!

What's your opinon of the bike on the top end?
I had a Busa that was solid as a rock at 186. But I never had my gixer 1000 over 160. It didn't feel like there was enough bike there for me.