View Full Version : I hope this is fake...


jjkukla
01-17-2007, 04:20 PM
Once again - couldn't find if this was posted previously - apologies if it has been.

CAUTION - PRETTY GRUESOME.

http://meetmeinto.com/thread_content.asp?threadId=498944&forumName=cmfor um&total=0 (http://meetmeinto.com/thread_content.asp?threadId=498944&forumName=cmfor um&total=0)

txmorgan
01-17-2007, 04:26 PM
that was ****ed up

jjkukla
01-17-2007, 04:28 PM
I don't think "****ed up" even begins to describe it actually... but yes it is pretty ****ed up ;)

bindelsf2
01-17-2007, 04:38 PM
yeah i agree with the people on the other forum, definately fake... i have seen the cops here do stuff like that for drinking and driving awareness week.

just my .02

dizzie56
01-17-2007, 04:42 PM
photochop!!!!!!!!!! but thanks for makin me sick to my stomach anyways :D

BlindinOrange
01-17-2007, 04:48 PM
too much color in the body to be real.

jjkukla
01-17-2007, 04:52 PM
It appears as though some people know their way around Photo Shop too well!

mannyrios
01-17-2007, 05:17 PM
real or not... my subway meal is all over my keyboard. gross

mdfirefighter
01-17-2007, 08:36 PM
I'm confused... how the heck did he get in two peices? The bike is fine... that cut is way to clean.

MDFF

HurricaneForce
01-17-2007, 08:43 PM
It could be real. What if low-sided in a right hand turn, slid into oncoming traffic, and went under someone's tires, while the bike passed in front of or behind said car?

That said, It's still probably fake, but not impossible.

importcarkid
01-17-2007, 09:10 PM
that is fricken messed up!!

VP
01-17-2007, 10:57 PM
fake or not... that was one person torn into two peices for those of you who didn't check it out.

nc29biker
01-17-2007, 11:08 PM
Think he got cut in half by a car or truck. Where did his pants go?

city worker
01-17-2007, 11:15 PM
Glad I read all the grousome reveiws 1st, didn't bother clickin on it, but thanks all the same :eek:

NOchknstrips
01-18-2007, 02:10 AM
pretty gross. Just wondering why there wasnt more blood and why the shirt didnt have blood soaking through. Fake or real it was still pretty gross. I gotta go watch some porn to wash that out of my mind before I go to sleep.

spdfrk58
01-18-2007, 02:18 AM
it's got to be fake 100%. The cut is too clean. ANd if for some reason he ended up going under a tire of a car, the tire would not do that. I have first hand experiance of seeing what happens when a person gets run over by a car tire and that picture ain't it.

Shocktroop
01-18-2007, 04:16 AM
Dudes, thats fake as hell. How you gonna hit something so hard to split you into halves and then what?.....land perfectly in the road????? Nothing skined or anything on the body, but you just got damn ripped in half??? C'mon! There is sometimes a minimal blood loss when loosing limbs and such as your arteries constrict to severe trauma to inhibit blood loss, but you go gettin ripped half and sorry, no constriction there buddie, your pourin out. Fake man, fake, but good entertainment anyways. And if it is real, at least he looks good enough for an open casket!

Fretless33
01-18-2007, 06:24 AM
Arterial blood is a vivid red color and the blood is separating near the edges...beyond the pole in the direction of the body is spray and fresh wood chips all over the road...it's hard to see because the surface is dark, but the pole is damaged (about bike level).

Whomever thinks the cut is "way too clean" is on drugs...that's a horrific tear...nothing clean about that! An incident happened a few years ago in the Chicago area where a young speeding sport biker got ripped in half by a pole...probably similar to this incident...the image with the pole in the forefront of the shot is there for a reason...documentation.

It would be nice if that scene was Photoshopped, but I think it's real...

jjkukla
01-18-2007, 10:34 AM
We're thinking that he flew off his bike and was cut in two by a guy wire that was supporting a utility pole - well that's the theory. I don't know if there's any other way he could be in two pieces.

Keep 'em coming. Sorry I had to gross a few of you out, I didn't want to be alone ;)

mdfirefighter
01-18-2007, 11:19 AM
ORIGINAL: Fretless33
Whomever thinks the cut is "way too clean" is on drugs...that's a horrific tear...nothing clean about that!


Have you ever seen first hand what a body looks like when its ripped apart? Well unfortunetly I have. Worst part was following a police officer with a biohazard bag picking up pieces of brain, skull, and bones with meat hanging offas he takes pictures of every single one.

If there was enough force to rip/cut this guy in half, something else should be wrong with this guy.

So I'm happy to say this is fake. Good photochop though.

MDFF

Fretless33
01-18-2007, 02:11 PM
ORIGINAL: mdfirefighter

Have you ever seen first hand what a body looks like when its ripped apart?


After 17 years in the emergency field, 8 years EMS and9 years as an RN in a level 1 trauma center...uhhhh...yea...does that make me a more valid critic now?

Just because you saw one body ripped apart, doesn't make you a dismemberment expert...LOL :D

Fretless33
01-18-2007, 02:15 PM
I'll run this one by my friend with over 20 years experience in the county morgue and get his opinion...

mdfirefighter
01-18-2007, 02:21 PM
I would say so, yeah. And I've seen more then just that one, but it really doesn't matter as every situation is different. Just putting my thoughts out there that it seems to be very odd that he is cut in half with no other visible injury. *shrug* Just seems odd.

We are all guessing based on pictures, we don't know what actually happened. Based on what I have seen I think its fake. You disagree, I respect that.

MDFF

Fretless33
01-18-2007, 03:41 PM
ORIGINAL: mdfirefighter

We are all guessing based on pictures, we don't know what actually happened. Based on what I have seen I think its fake. You disagree, I respect that.

MDFF


I completely agree!

Just to add to the no visible injury theory, he has what would be multiple abrasions, however I think he bled out within seconds due to all the major vessels being torn open so they don't have the capillary seepage like normal abrasions...locations are abrasion on his right proximal forearm, abrasions to knees bilaterally, he has a huge avulsion on his left mid-thigh, then the obvious disembowelment (intestines intact holding full with feces)...themassive amount of arterial/venous blood has coagulated at the base of the upper torso and the serum is separating...he has a pretty obvious fracture to his left hand, which appears to be pole side judging from the impact mark on the pole, not to mention the spray of blood on the pavement...it takes a lot of blood to paint the pavement like that and I think is consistent to a high speed/high velocity impact with that pole...I don't see any evidence of a cable on that or any of the other poles...It must have been unbelievable to see him get torn in half in a cloud of blood and he must have been going very fast! I think he was wearing a helmet because the shots with the ambulance in it, curb side there appears to be a blue object, which might be his lid and he has some bruising under his chin.

Just my opinion, but why would that be faked by the police and how much would it cost to hire an expert to "Photoshop" or stage somethinglike that? Just because it's gruesome and difficult to believe, doesn't mean it's impossible...

Slipspace
01-19-2007, 03:27 AM
I agree with that, I think it's real.

danny600rr
01-19-2007, 01:16 PM
i dunno guys im no doctor but im guessing if your body is split in half you would be loosing way more blood than there is shown in the pics..regardless its very nasty

Kikepiz
01-19-2007, 01:24 PM
I think it is real, who's with me!! [sm=hiya.gif]

DDCavi
01-19-2007, 02:37 PM
I think its real. Wanna know why theres no blood puddling? Because whatever he hit (looks like the pole) after the cut the blood seems to have been "slung" out of his body. Id bet almost anything its real.

dizzie56
01-19-2007, 06:36 PM
ORIGINAL: Fretless33

ORIGINAL: mdfirefighter

We are all guessing based on pictures, we don't know what actually happened. Based on what I have seen I think its fake. You disagree, I respect that.

MDFF


I completely agree!

Just to add to the no visible injury theory, he has what would be multiple abrasions, however I think he bled out within seconds due to all the major vessels being torn open so they don't have the capillary seepage like normal abrasions...locations are abrasion on his right proximal forearm, abrasions to knees bilaterally, he has a huge avulsion on his left mid-thigh, then the obvious disembowelment (intestines intact holding full with feces)...themassive amount of arterial/venous blood has coagulated at the base of the upper torso and the serum is separating...he has a pretty obvious fracture to his left hand, which appears to be pole side judging from the impact mark on the pole, not to mention the spray of blood on the pavement...it takes a lot of blood to paint the pavement like that and I think is consistent to a high speed/high velocity impact with that pole...I don't see any evidence of a cable on that or any of the other poles...It must have been unbelievable to see him get torn in half in a cloud of blood and he must have been going very fast! I think he was wearing a helmet because the shots with the ambulance in it, curb side there appears to be a blue object, which might be his lid and he has some bruising under his chin.

Just my opinion, but why would that be faked by the police and how much would it cost to hire an expert to "Photoshop" or stage somethinglike that? Just because it's gruesome and difficult to believe, doesn't mean it's impossible...


u dont really need to hire the police department for the use of photochop. u really just need a good imagination .02. but anyways matlock, with all of what u said takin into account, it might actually be real. who posted this in the first place? where did they get it from?

Tahoe SC
01-19-2007, 07:24 PM
not enough blood to be real...
now for some real stuff...you see that girl who crashed her dad's porsche on the toll way in Orange County, CA? that was some crazy carnage...

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nc29biker
01-19-2007, 07:30 PM
Having looked at it again, i am sure he hit the pole as you can see some marks on it & it looks real to me but i'm no expert.

doncollins
01-19-2007, 11:33 PM
We'll never know 100 if it's fake or real. I've seen enough dead bodies in this type of dismemberment and blood loss can be from one extreme to the other. It's not always like Hollywood with gallons blood pouring everywhere where. Color is a funny thing too, it doesn't look fake to me.

bushmasterAR15
01-19-2007, 11:45 PM
Im not sure either. Everyone sais there is not enough blood, but the human body contains roughly 5 liters of blood. Considering the legs, torso, brain etc still have some blood in it, plus what was spilled, it is possible it is real. There very well could be 5 liters of blood there.Looks very real although I wish it was fake. Heres a question, why are his eyes blocked out? Considering the gruesomeness of the photos why hide the eyes?

bobjoezx
01-19-2007, 11:48 PM
where is this video..

bobjoezx
01-19-2007, 11:49 PM
ok sorry never mind .. i wasn't on the first page my bad

Illushun
01-19-2007, 11:51 PM
I have never seen something like that in person so I couldn't say either way. And, I can't look at the pictures long enough to notice fake stuff even that others have mentioned. Now my stomach feels like that guys looks.

bushmasterAR15
01-20-2007, 12:02 AM
Makes me hungry after looking at it, mmmmmmmm how about some liver and onions........

bobjoezx
01-20-2007, 12:11 AM
wow your done bushmaster haha.. u get my PM?

cbr_newbie
01-20-2007, 05:07 PM
ack.. man vs pole... pole wins

N8 Dawg
01-21-2007, 01:45 PM
I say its fake, blood is too red....and if he was cut in half, why is there no blood on his shirt?

Leveltwo
01-22-2007, 03:29 AM
[:'(]

spdrmns
01-22-2007, 03:58 AM
well i think it is very possible and i belive this is real.. notice on the right side of the pictures it says motorcycle vs pole.. lost control and was launched off the bike and flew right into the pole.. its that simple.. as for the blood.. alot of things you see on TV are blown out of perportion as for the amount of blood.. so you get the idea of gore and you expect more when somthing this bad happends.. and in one of the pictures there is a shoe in it too laying on the street..

jjkukla
01-22-2007, 11:56 AM
Damn, I havestarted several threads here and none of them have gotten nearly as much response as this one. Brings a tear to my eye ;) Thanks guys.

For those who asked, I got that site from a buddy of mine who rides a ZZR1200. Where did they get it from? Good question! I even checked around on the internet (some of those pics have a location on them) to see if I could verify it. Snopes.com didn't come back with anything nor did any of the typical search engines.

I still think it's real. But I have been wrong before ;)

HurricaneForce
01-22-2007, 01:30 PM
The tag on it says "ogrish.com Motorcycle vs pole in Budapest, Hungary"

Maybe there's more info at ogrish.com, but I'm not gonna look for it.

Slipspace
01-22-2007, 07:44 PM
That **** is so real, I honestly think the people saying that someone created this with a computer program don't want to accept that something this violent can happen from riding a motorcycle.

N8 Dawg
01-22-2007, 10:13 PM
ORIGINAL: F4inorfolkva

That **** is so real, I honestly think the people saying that someone created this with a computer program don't want to accept that something this violent can happen from riding a motorcycle.


Have saw a lot worse then this......just goto ride2die.com have all kinds of nasty pics....still think its fake....the blood looks like a someone colored it with a redcrayon...the shirt would atleast soak some of the blood up....

oreo
01-22-2007, 11:09 PM
FAKE
Blood will look like that after a while because it absorbs o2 oxygen rich blood is bright red. but if he hit the pole fast enough to cut him in half, the body would have tumbled down the street causing scrapes and cuts on the arms and legs also the neck was cut like it had been opened like they do on the morgue my guess. It's one of those bodies they donate to science put to "other" use

Fretless33
01-23-2007, 01:24 AM
ORIGINAL: oreo

FAKE
Blood will look like that after a while because it absorbs o2 oxygen rich blood is bright red. but if he hit the pole fast enough to cut him in half, the body would have tumbled down the street causing scrapes and cuts on the arms and legs also the neck was cut like it had been opened like they do on the morgue my guess. It's one of those bodies they donate to science put to "other" use

This reply strikes me as really ignorant and funny...you haven't looked closely at the pictures yet...have you, or you have a really low quality monitor :D

Arterial blood is vivid red...like Ferrari red...trust me...I've seen a lot of it. :(

HurricaneForce
01-23-2007, 03:44 AM
I don't think it's fake (Why would they go to all of the trouble to make his legs like all rashed up and not do his arms, or forget a huge detail like the "morgue cuts" on his neck?), but does anyone know what the marks on his neck could be? Or how he managed to not skin his elbows?

Fretless33
01-23-2007, 11:27 AM
ORIGINAL: HurricaneForce

but does anyone know what the marks on his neck could be? Or how he managed to not skin his elbows?


You missed the reply where I did the anatomical description of his injuries aye?

He does have some abrasions on his forearms, but when you bleed out the wounds don't seep blood like a living person's does...they're there, but they're still flesh colored. The upper torso could have landedface up (supine)and slid on it's back, so all the trauma could be facing the ground...N8 Dawg, don't you think the back of the shirt is a bit saturated with blood...not to mention it's a dark colored shirt and won't show the blood as well.

The bruising on his neck is more than likely from the force of his helmet being flung off his head...you can see a blue object in several of the pictures which appear to bea helmet.

All these are things our fire fighter friend overlooked...

bushmasterAR15
01-23-2007, 02:46 PM
Can you save him fret??[X(]or is it too late??

jjkukla
01-23-2007, 03:28 PM
ORIGINAL: bushmasterAR15
Can you save him fret??[X(]or is it too late??

$hit, not even Colonel Potter and his 4077th M*A*S*H unit coulda saved that guy!!!!

dizzie56
01-23-2007, 03:42 PM
I think we just found out that too many people on here watch CSI. U all should switch to Scrubs on Comedy Central...its hella funny

bushmasterAR15
01-23-2007, 04:38 PM
Horatio on csi is hilarious, love his short lines, then he poses after every line staring off into the sunset................................cant stand that dude[:@]

Rotts1
01-26-2007, 01:58 AM
I would have to go with Fret on this one. The cuts under his chin look like they came from his helmet. It appears that his helmet was thrown at some point and is in one of the pictures....like Fret described. The pole seems to have a streak across it, which is probably where the body hit and seperated. The marks on the ground look like the 2 parts of this guy hit and just tumbled around. The blood would be everywhere, but it probably was sprayed at an explosive force which wouldn't leave much to leak out of the corpse.

Real or fake.......it's still a freaking disgusting picture.